WWII

[Unknown Soldier]

hi people

if you want to ask any question or just chat about the thing that happend in WWII just post here :thumbsup:

[C4talyst]

I was shocked when I first heard that the U.S. lost 1000 men when overloaded boats sank as they were simply PRACTICING the D-Day attack, a few days before the real assault. Our generals did some dumb things during that war.

[Predator]

This is bugging,
Where is Bastogne, is it in the Ardennes forest in Belgium,
Thanks :blink:

[Malarkey]

Originally posted by Predator@Mar 6 2005, 04:32 PM
This is bugging,
Where is Bastogne, is it in the Ardennes forest in Belgium,
Thanks :blink:
Yes, it is. :yup:

[Predator]

Ok man cheers just had to make sure lol,

Thanks again :tup:

[mcdarkness]

Can anyone tell me how many allied soldiers died during the first day of D day and how many germans too perhaps.

[Ives]

Originally posted by mcdarkness@Mar 9 2005, 10:24 PM
Can anyone tell me how many allied soldiers died during the first day of D day and how many germans too perhaps.
Ya I would like to know that 2

[private diapers]

my dad met this one guy who was put in a concentration camp during WWII . He tried to escape but they caught him. the leader of the camp took him into a room with an mp40 and went to meellee attack him with it but because it is an open action gun it backfired and shot the leader in the face. the gaurds outside thought the leader had killed the boy and relaxed. Then the boy walked out and hosed down like 5 or 6 gaurds with the mp 40 and the camp was closed and he survived it all. its just a cool story i think :w00t:

[Unknown Soldier]

Originally posted by Predator@Mar 6 2005, 02:47 PM
Ok man cheers just had to make sure lol,

Thanks again :tup:
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i think it was 2000

[C4talyst]

Originally posted by mcdarkness@Mar 10 2005, 12:24 AM
Can anyone tell me how many allied soldiers died during the first day of D day and how many germans too perhaps.
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According to google, the number was around 50,000, in one day...

[Da Slayer]

Originally posted by CyberSEAL+Mar 16 2005, 02:55 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(CyberSEAL @ Mar 16 2005, 02:55 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-mcdarkness@Mar 10 2005, 12:24 AM
Can anyone tell me how many allied soldiers died during the first day of D day and how many germans too perhaps.
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According to google, the number was around 50,000, in one day...
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My great grand father fought in world war 1 at the IJzer river .

[Unknown Soldier]

I can't remember where i heard 2000 deaths from but i guess it was around 50,000

but still thats a hell of a lot of deaths in one day
it must have been really intense that day

[Da Slayer]

I think my grand father fought with the resistance .
He never talked about it allot , i think he had killed germans and that's something he coul'd never forget.
He even had go to russia to hide from the Germans , because they forced him to work for them in their factories but he escaped.
Anyhow my grandfather was a hero , may he rest in peace.

[17]

any1 read band of brothers or see the mini series? if so any comments?

[GoA Stackhouse]

Yeah, d-day was alot of casualties, for the Allies, but it doesnt stack up to the losses on the russians front, hundreds of thousands. BY NO MEANS, am I undermining D-Day, I am as adrent a partiot as any real American.

[GoA Stackhouse]

Did you guys know they actually had floating tanks prepared for the D-Day invasion, Generals knew they would need to move troops up the beach with armor, or they would get slaughtered. And the tanks worked on all but one beach.......omaha, just something to think upon, and research

[$olid_$nake]

yes there where a few types of Sea/Land veichles made bye a British General called Hobart. the line of tanks were called Hobarts funnies they inclued tanks like the the sea worthy Churchill (witch failed at the Diepe Radies ((i think it was Diepe)) in 1942 i think :huh:: ) and the Shermans DD . The American's also developed the DUKW but i am not sure wether they used them at D-Day i think they were only used in the Pacific.Hobart also developed Churchill tanks that had spinning flails and bridge laying equiptment fixed to them.

[The Last Slovene]

Some on said that we lost 50,000 people on D-Day. If Iwo Jima was the biggest loss of life in one battle for the U.S.,6,000 marines. 282,000 for the hole war. D-day was not the blood bath people say it was. Some people r on crack. P.S. cansome on tell me how do I edit the stuff like it says warrant officer?

[Unknown Soldier]

Originally posted by The Last Slovene@Apr 2 2005, 03:24 PM
Some on said that we lost 50,000 people on D-Day. If Iwo Jima was the biggest loss of life in one battle for the U.S.,6,000 marines. 282,000 for the hole war. D-day was not the blood bath people say it was. Some people r on crack. P.S. cansome on tell me how do I edit the stuff like it says warrant officer?
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thats alot of marines dead :o but i think the Japanese lost
something like 60,000 acording to my Dad


where is Iwo Jima?

[The Last Slovene]

The Japs lost alot more men but they were talkin about D-Day for the U.S. Iwo Jima is a small island 950 miles away from Japan.

[GoA Stackhouse]

The japs lost 3 times what we did, due to "suicide" tactics

[private diapers]

In call of duty:the rocket mission.My grandfather was in on that invasion. they captured the v2's and used them against germany. Also it was an american mission to capture the V2's not British

[Møllemanden]

Originally posted by GoA Stackhouse@Apr 3 2005, 02:24 PM
The japs lost 3 times what we did, due to "suicide" tactics
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The weird thing about the japanese's attack on the US, was the fact that they knew they was unable to win it. They knew they were only able to hold the US Army for approx 3 months! After the US froze the japanese assets because of the jap attack of french indochina, that japanese prins (I think his name was Konoyes) started the attack on US base Pearl Harbour. What a fatal decision that was lol! What I find amusing is the fact that 95% of the hangar ships located @ Pearl Habour was at sea! The japanese never destroyed what they were really after... What a dumbass prince! Well anyways that attack triggered the US to send troops to the UK to fight the Nazis. So all in all the japs was a huge factor in helping Germany losing the war!

Thank god for that!

[Turkey Shoot]

btw from a while bak, the DUKW according to my instincts was invented by the british, part of "Hobarts Funnies" like the Churchill Crocodile, AVRE, Sherman flail tank and DD tanks.

about D-day 50,000 ppl > i dunno what the figure is, the actual stuff i know is 37,000 dead, 18,000 missings and 154,000 wounded for allies and 200,000 killed or wounded, 200,000 prisoners for the germans.

and btw there wos 4000 casualties at omaha and around 1000 fatalities

who sed 50,000 ppl??? id like to give him an smak over the head with my history textbook :hi:

[Turkey Shoot]

Sorry about ranting on but the Dieppe raid in 1942 by the canadians went balls up cos they didnt use (and have) swimming tanks. they had to drive LCT's rite up to the beach and drop off the tanks.

LCT's were very big so they were basically sitting duks...and along that line DUKW's were used in the assault by 2nd Rangers at the cliffs of Point du Hoc.

there wasnt as far as i know a swimming churchill tank but i have to check that up - only Shermans DD's were able to swim and be fitted with the mine clearing flails. i think churchills only had mine rollers.

one section of omaha lost 25 out of 27 of its swimming sherman DD's and two tanks aint gonna last long with every single bit of artillery being directed at them along with many beach anti tank obstacles not being cleared by engineers.

the practice of the the d-day attack was on a deserted village off coast of england. it wos codenamed "exercise tiger"...the boats didnt just sink, not really dumb generals.

some german gunboats came upon the troop ships that were taking part in the exercise - for some reason the american destroyers did not see the torperdo boats

the troop ships then got like totally massacred

oh yeah the casualties numbers given above is for the whole battle of normandy....includes operations following d-day to capture cities like caen and destroy german armour....thats why figures are so high....

[Musouka]

Unknown, you spelled "here" incorrectly.

[[-SA-]Hawkins]

Originally posted by GoA Stackhouse@Apr 3 2005, 08:24 AM
The japs lost 3 times what we did, due to "suicide" tactics
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yeah with their damn kamakazies lol

[grampy]

Although a lot of brave men dieed on D-Day, it wasn't quite the blood bath that some have mentioned here. It is also worth noting that casulties were considerably less than was anticipated.
Here is the best avaiable figures;

Total Allied casualties on D-Day are estimated at 10,000, including 2500 dead. British casualties on D-Day have been estimated at approximately 2700. The Canadians lost 946 casualties. The US forces lost 6603 men. Note that the casualty figures for smaller units do not always add up to equal these overall figures exactly, however (this simply reflects the problems of obtaining accurate casualty statistics).

Casualties on the British beaches were roughly 1000 on Gold Beach and the same number on Sword Beach. The remainder of the British losses were amongst the airborne troops: some 600 were killed or wounded, and 600 more were missing; 100 glider pilots also became casualties. The losses of 3rd Canadian Division at Juno Beach have been given as 340 killed, 574 wounded and 47 taken prisoner.

The breakdown of US casualties was 1465 dead, 3184 wounded, 1928 missing and 26 captured. Of the total US figure, 2499 casualties were from the US airborne troops (238 of them being deaths). The casualties at Utah Beach were relatively light: 197, including 60 missing. However, the US 1st and 29th Divisions together suffered around 2000 casualties at Omaha Beach.

The total German casualties on D-Day are not known, but are estimated as being between 4000 and 9000 men.

I highly recommend Steven Ambrose's book D-Day which is very readable and has information that you won't find elsewhere. Also his book Pegasus Bridge will be of interest to those that enjoyed playing that segment in COD. You will also find that it was fairly accurately presented in the game. One missing element is the British PIAT antitank weapon. A wretched POS (even by British standards) it was actually spring loaded and was only capable of doing real damage with a very very accurate shot. Despite that, a British sergeant at Pegasus Bridge fired what is arguably the most important shot on D-Day when he stopped a German tank with it and discouraged the rest), despite the fact that the British glider troops guarding that very crucial and strategic bridge had nothing to defend against tanks, not even an extra round for the PIAT.

[mcdarkness]

Anyone know anything about Kursk?....i only know that it was the largest tank battle in history and the soviets kicked alot of kraut ass as usual post 42.

[Graphic]

Originally posted by mcdarkness@Apr 20 2005, 08:29 PM
Anyone know anything about Kursk?....i only know that it was the largest tank battle in history and the soviets kicked alot of kraut ass as usual post 42.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kursk :yup: