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LtSounders
01-12-2005, 04:12 PM
I was wondering who you all though was the greatest race/country of war. I'd have to say the Romans were. Not only did they succeed at conquering much of the known world, but their empire lasted about 1000 years (inlcuding the days of the republic), This is a great achievement to say the least...

http://www.uwm.edu/People/danielz/Roman%20Empire%20Scavenger%20Hunt_files/image004.jpg

[F2G]vorteX
01-12-2005, 04:35 PM
i agree with you on that one. they did last a long time, but they were rotting from the inside out for a very long time. Near the end, there were very few good rulers--most of them were corrupt and did not help the empire. if they had kept the system of the republic and the senate, they probably would have lasted longer.

mcdarkness
01-12-2005, 08:42 PM
the mongols had a bigger empire and plus you shouldn't say race of warrioirs because its too broad and it sounds racist. Country narrows it down more. :thumbsup:

imported_Aesir
01-12-2005, 09:37 PM
my german campaign in medieval total war has captured all of europe and most of northern africa, if that counts...

[F2G]vorteX
01-13-2005, 03:27 PM
lol i think we are talkin about real history

mcdarkness
01-13-2005, 06:46 PM
The Romans basically had an empire around the meditteranean but the mongols had an even bigger empire.From the far reaches of asia to the danube in eastern europe. :thumbsup:

-=(B-I-A)=-{GOA}WARdog
01-13-2005, 07:33 PM
I would have to say the Chinese and the Japanese has extremely good empires...Chinas empire still exists. and the Muslims who conquered all of north africa and parts of asia as well. i could say romans r up there but they rnt at the top of the list

imported_Aesir
01-13-2005, 11:02 PM
lol i think we are talkin about real history
uh, yes i knew that i was being semi-sarcastic. im not that stupid.

[-SA-]Hawkins
01-14-2005, 08:33 AM
i would have to agree with the mongols they conquered alot of ppl and had the largest empire

$olid_$nake
01-14-2005, 09:16 AM
i must say i think it would be the British empire as they owned a large amount of land at there prime and knew what to with the land and used it to grow a large economy and army. if only it was still around. B)

COD-RIOT-STARTER
01-16-2005, 07:22 PM
What do you all think I would find the worlds greatest, however short, empire. Heil!

COD-RIOT-STARTER
01-16-2005, 07:23 PM
Heil to the Commander!

imported_Aesir
01-16-2005, 08:06 PM
you really are a f**king stupid twat, as was hitler. he made foolish and cowardly land grabs, feeding the eager german public tall tales of Jewish treachery and deceit. because of his lies and arrogance many young men grew up with the illusion that racism was a way of life, and they in turn gave theirs to feed hitler's groing appetite for death.

COD-RIOT-STARTER
01-17-2005, 05:59 AM
senseless liberal jew-lover. Hitler could be a stubborn man, but his acclompishments are undeniable. He was very, very close to taking pigland UK and therefore securing his foothold over Europe, a task no crusader, kingdom, or civilization could EVER do. Not the Romans, anyone! He did all this with a country the same size of France, smaller than all his neighbors combined. He got within 20 miles of owning the land between the Atlantic and the Pacific, From Normandy the Siberia. Not only that, but he also owned all of Northern Africa. You are a stupid fool for not realizing that beyond allied propeganda, the Nazis made signifigant gains, and the brave german soldier fought better than ever. He also commisioned the developement of cheap car design, something we use still today. Hitler and the Nazis, despite their blatent sometimes unexplained rascism, made signifigant gains and certainly were one of the best warrior races ever.

$olid_$nake
01-17-2005, 12:00 PM
Hitler failed his dream from the start as his real gole was to colonize russia and allie with britan to create 2 huge super powers to rule the world. now just think wot the world would be like it that had happen. i belive it would of been a much better place as we could never of had a mass spreading of communisum so that means no vietnam conflict no bosnia nd kosavo and probably no Iraq plus the U.S would never have became a large super power so there would have been no 9/11 and no Al Quida out to destroy the U.S so all in all the world would of been much better. there would only have been 1 problem. the jews would dispear but Britian would probably never find out was it would have been a masive secret project so there. Also the British Empire was the best by far

LtSounders
01-17-2005, 01:04 PM
lol nice theory...but completly unrealistic :doh:

$olid_$nake
01-17-2005, 01:07 PM
ofcorse it's realistic how could it not be

imported_Aesir
01-17-2005, 07:29 PM
He also commisioned the developement of cheap car design, yes he did, using starved and tortured Jews for slave labor. Hitlers empire was vast in the late 30s, early 40s but after D-Day his thirst for land gains got out of proportion and he made foolish and dangerous manouvres such as the battle of the bulge. read any ww2 history book. theyll tell you that hitler's aides found that he was going crazy after D-day. his objective of taking the port of antwerp in the battle of the bulge was foolish, he would havr to get through the alies whole axis of advance and reinforcements up the falaise pocket. hitler was a nut, and you, my friend, are a nut as well.

Malarkey
01-18-2005, 01:04 AM
Alexander the Great and his Macedonian (not Greek! :o :o :thumbdown: :pissed: ) warriors! :tup:

LtSounders
01-18-2005, 01:11 PM
Hey, the battle of the budlge was a threatening maneuver, if the germans would of won it could of meant disaster for the western front...

[F2G]vorteX
01-18-2005, 08:39 PM
true..

Jabe
01-19-2005, 02:08 PM
I'd have to agree with Wardog. The Chinese have a pretty good strong empire. The Russians are ok because technically, they have never been defeated but their economy is crap.

$olid_$nake
01-19-2005, 03:16 PM
the chinese empire is just basicly communisum as the russians have a democracey now. so china is now the communist empire

COD-RIOT-STARTER
01-19-2005, 03:47 PM
Father Nazism would have toned down with the years. Hitlers crusade against the Jews would be irrelevant, and I would be much happier. He would never have gotten to america, to populated and hard to reach. but without a Western front, Russia would be easy prey. The Afrika Corps would prevent terrorism, and Nazi Germany's views are at lot closer to America's modern day, minus the rascism, than the foolish lot of pink commie European pu$$y States that have emerged out of fear of another world war. But Germany is recovering. The proud German people elected 10% fascists to parliement... things are looking up...

LtSounders
01-20-2005, 06:45 PM
lol...here riot starter goes again.
Just wondering, where do you get the 10% figure from?

$olid_$nake
01-21-2005, 08:56 AM
even if germany recovers they wont be able to do any thing with the amount ot forine troops stationed there. and as far as terroisum goes, thats Bush's problem not the rest of the world. why should every western country join the war on terroisum wen america is the only country that has problem with it. plus Britain should not be consentraiting on the middle east but the situation in northern irland.

Jabe
01-21-2005, 02:22 PM
because it's something to do with politics. When you have an alliance, you have to help them in almost anything they get into. In return, the same thing goes for them. Thats the bad part about alliances especially in WW2. 2 countries got into a fight and the rest of the world goes to war because of alliance, treaties, and so on.

[F2G]vorteX
01-21-2005, 02:27 PM
yup! :D

+Fascista+
01-23-2005, 09:58 PM
Proud Sponsor of the Frente Nacional a.k.a. National Front of Portugal...today's Fascism.

FUBAR
01-26-2005, 04:49 PM
Spartans!, born fighters

nowadays the USA has the beast military. :o

$olid_$nake
01-27-2005, 09:34 AM
the U.S have never won a war on there own britain has been involved in all the wars the U.S have won. i can give you 2 examples samarlia (fighting untrained rebles) and vietnam.

COD-RIOT-STARTER
01-29-2005, 04:42 AM
Yay.. another fascist.

COD-RIOT-STARTER
01-29-2005, 04:45 AM
I hate limeys. they just cant accept they are unimportant. in my eyes the UK is more of a political ally. they account for less than 10% of the losses, they camped out near the Gulf for the entire war, but now they want people to think they were fighting just as much as the U.S. did... erm no. The US military dosent need your militaristic support, but rather you are our voice in Europe pretty much, and tony blair is our attack dog.

LtSounders
01-29-2005, 09:41 AM
Riot Starter you always talk about how great facism is, but how come the majority of western culture does not support it. Even the right wing Republlicans hate facism and love the freedom and equalitry in which it provides them. How come the last large facist regimes of ww2 were crushed by overwhelming power. I think what I'm trying to say is their is not a great future for a facist regime. If yoiu have any facts (not opinions) on how facism is prevailing I'd like to know.

*Let's try to keep this discussion mature without irrelevant personal attacks*

$olid_$nake
01-29-2005, 02:41 PM
tony blair wont be around much longer as he will be voted out the year then wot will the U.S do to keep a grip on europe. then without U.K backin the U.S will fall apart

COD-RIOT-STARTER
01-29-2005, 02:48 PM
Fascism is not growing... darkness is spreading. An astonsihing push of liberalism has swept our culture, borders, and lanuage out the door and took away all national identiy. WE ARE NOT CANADA. We have a rich tradition of power and indivudialality, and these liberal sciumbags are destroying that. Granted republicans are gaining a majority, they are just like the libbies. TOO LIBERAL. liberalism is a mental disease. Modern day liberals mask their insane anarchy wishes by calling them "civil rights". Whats civil about the murder of 55 million babies? f**k the holocaust, the liberals are murdering 10x the people than the Great nazi regime did. ARE THEY NOT PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY CANNOT DEFEND THEMSELVES? IS IT A WOMANS RIGHT TO CHOOSE TO KILL A BABY UP UNTIL IT CAN SCREAM FOR ITS OWN MERCY? THAT f**kING SLUT SHOULD USE HER RIGHT TO CHOOSE BEFORE SHE f**kED EVERY SON OF A b*tch IN TOWN AND GOT PREAGNANT. MURDER IS NOT AN OPTION.

FREEDOM IS OUTDATED

thats correct, i said it. American style democracy is outdated. freedom is ok when society has dignity and reservations. when people wont use their freedom to undermine the government, turn fags and become dysfunctional, murder babies, and open up our border to wetbacks. freedom is for a better people than the people that inhabit my country. Freedom was great in the 1800's to about 1960. 1960's were the darkest period america EVER faced.55 million people died as a result of it. (abortion). The feminists, PETA fags, and Liberals in general are degenerates. They take it up the a$$ from the UN. Fascism is REQUIERED if America is to remain a super-power. Now, I am not advocating secret police and death camps. I am saying we need to close the borders completely, attack every country thats a threat, and shut up Micheal Moore and his gang. AMERICA does not support the liberals, this last election showed that. Remember: America growed and became strong during its conservative times. America is in the last days of its "glory". The liberals are weakening us. We are growing fat like the romans. And lazy, and we have no sense of nationalism. FASCISM OR DEATH!

have i explained myself??? :lol:

COD-RIOT-STARTER
01-29-2005, 02:53 PM
Since when do we need the UK. WE DONT. you are a side-show. America should sever all ties with Europe. Europe is going to he||. I talked to fellow fascist Europeans, and the turkish invasion (disguised in immigration) will turn Europe into ****holes like their own countries. America is the only light of a country still progressing and retaining its culture, something no one else in the delevoped world is doing. Perhaps at a slower rate thanks to the liberals. We should ally ourselves with the slavs and israleis against the muslim menace.

Heil Hitler! Praise Israel. They shall both come together... fascism, and comradship with our fellow jewish warriors against the muslim and gook menace.

LtSounders
01-30-2005, 09:11 AM
Rio Starter I think your nuts, but thats democracy...
I totally disagree with your previous statements, but have some insight on what goes on in your mind :o

Anywho, in one of your earlier posts you said 10% of the german parliament are facists and their slowly gaining power, I don't even think they have any seats, that information was misleading. Anyways check out the website below. This is a non-bias government website which provides us with all the information from the last German election.

http://www.germany-info.org/relaunch/info/.../Poll_data.html (http://www.codboards.com/redirect.php?http://www.germany-info.org/relaunch/info/publications/infocus/Elections/Poll_data.html)

Seems like Germany is pretty Liberal :P

COD-RIOT-STARTER
01-30-2005, 11:07 AM
HaHaHa... it was on NRPnews.com that i got my information. NPR is unbiased 100%. They arent celled fascists but that is their basic beleifs. In many polls in Germany, many Germans are discontent with the Turkish invasion, kind of like we are discontent with the Wetbacks. You say I am nuts, yet you have no ideas of your ownpersay, you only degrade mine, and you only think they are nuts is because you are a wide-eyed liberal brainchild who repeats their rhetoric with few mistakes. Praise Israel and Fascism! Death to theliberals!

$olid_$nake
01-30-2005, 02:31 PM
so your plan is to take out ever country that is a thret so that will be Britain, Germany, Russia, Israle, China, Japan, Pakistan, India, Korea, France, all of wich have nukes ok. and WTF is the Turkish invation . if just wait till britain get money and a desent leader (me) we will then get a bigger army better weapons all made in britain new armour a better ecomony and much much more. but first we need to get rid of the 1 thing that is in every ones way the U.N get rid of that you have chaos but after a few years it will all carlm to find a completly new world map for every country.

COD-RIOT-STARTER
01-31-2005, 03:07 PM
Praise to the great fortres Europe, and the great nazi party which planted the seed of fascism that still grows today!

COD-RIOT-STARTER
01-31-2005, 06:50 PM
BROTHERS FIGHTING SIDE BY SIDE

imported_Aesir
02-01-2005, 02:41 AM
how many times does that make it youve posted those repetitive nazi pics enemy? 10, maybe 20 times?

COD-RIOT-STARTER
02-01-2005, 05:12 AM
That one is a new one, thank you fool. Here is another for you misbehaving.

imported_Aesir
02-02-2005, 04:09 AM
everything you say about your fascism counters your bush-loving. if bush found out that any political member of any country had any remotely fascist ideals, he would no doubt bomb the offending country to he||. idiot.

COD-RIOT-STARTER
02-02-2005, 02:15 PM
I am not a big bush lover. I just never want to live with a liberal in office, so i support him. I am what the media calls "hard-line" conservatives, meaning I am not one of the tolerant compassionate or Evangelical conservatives, but of a gun-toting far right almost on par with Timothy Mcveigh, but not into suicide bombing and anti government *****. HEIL FASCISM AND A POLICE STATE

LtSounders
02-02-2005, 03:08 PM
Let's get Riot-Starters blood preassure up, and it might even pop out his anger vein in his forehead ;)

http://shotsacrossthebow.com/weblog/images/DemDiv.jpg

http://zoom.cafepress.com/2/1621892_zoom.jpg



http://mywebpages.comcast.net/waltsullivan/repubbut.gif

I'm not even American, but I'm liberal (even more left, NDP all the way for the Canadians out there!) Up here we have a little something called the Liberla Party of Canada! Oh ya, rock on!

LtSounders
02-02-2005, 03:11 PM
Here's some more propaganda lol

http://www.elections.ca/pol/images/new_lib.gif


http://www.elections.ca/pol/images/new_lib.gif


http://www.elections.ca/pol/images/new_lib.gif


http://www.elections.ca/pol/images/new_lib.gif

http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/blogs/static/justia/nader.jpg

Nader, he's so cool!

COD-RIOT-STARTER
02-02-2005, 06:59 PM
FOOL... PRAISE TO HITLER AND THE RIGHT WING

COD-RIOT-STARTER
02-02-2005, 06:59 PM
Hail Bush, our fellow fascist at heart!

COD-RIOT-STARTER
02-02-2005, 07:01 PM
death to liberals!

COD-RIOT-STARTER
02-02-2005, 07:02 PM
PRAISE FASCISM!

COD-RIOT-STARTER
02-02-2005, 07:03 PM
SAD FOOL!

$olid_$nake
02-03-2005, 10:10 AM
more like hail dictatorship
and communisum

COD-RIOT-STARTER
02-03-2005, 02:09 PM
please, dont display your clear lack of knowledge. Communism is about as far as you can get from a fascist like me.

Communist-----Liberal------Cetrist------Conservative---------Fascist

There is a little crash course for you, boy.

LtSounders
02-03-2005, 03:48 PM
Majority rules, theres more liberals and left wingers here then facists.
Long live liberalism! (will let Riot Starter continue to dream) .

One of of the great liberals...


http://www.fiftiesweb.com/kennedy/john-f-kennedy-2.jpg

COD-RIOT-STARTER
02-04-2005, 02:11 PM
Praise Hitler and the right wing, which now, in America, has a 5% of advantage from people who consider themself conservative than liberal. Praise Hitler, and the fourth reich!

One of the great conservatives...

COD-RIOT-STARTER
02-04-2005, 02:13 PM
Well, i dont at all support this, but what ended up happening to this great, liberal idealist president?

Perhaps this can remind you.

imported_Aesir
02-04-2005, 06:59 PM
lets see enemy, lets go through some of america's great presidents and see if they were fascist:

Lincoln: no
Roosevelt: as far as i know, he wasnt :unsure:
eisenhower: definately not!
kennedy: no way
Nixon: dont know
Clinton: the best of the modern-day American presidents, definately not a fascist pig
Bush: not a hope in he||!
now that you have been caught out by obviously contradicting yourself, you
have resorted to merely posting pictures in the small hope that someone will actually look at them and convert to fascist. tut tut enemy, you really are on a downward slope arent you...

imported_Aesir
02-04-2005, 07:03 PM
here look at this. the mans an idiot:

COD-RIOT-STARTER
02-04-2005, 08:52 PM
no, your an idiot. I never said any president was a facist, you communist clown. I said we SHOULD have fascists in the white house. Sad fool.

LtSounders
02-04-2005, 08:53 PM
Here Here! Good point demon, theres always gonna be some facist out there but majority rules, and democracy will always prevail.

imported_Aesir
02-04-2005, 11:25 PM
do you yanks really want a preident that doesnt know the meaning of soverign (sp?) he is an idiot. he tries to dodge all the questions above his level of intellect. hear all the people laughing in the background after he gives his loopy meaning?

COD-RIOT-STARTER
02-05-2005, 08:18 AM
He is all but elouquent, but his veiws are much better than you neo anarachy liberal f**ks that i want dead. You liberals talk ***** all you want, America dosent support your ***** and loves pumping bullets into the hearts of commie SoB's.

LtSounders
02-05-2005, 09:05 AM
Demon, let Riot Starter continue to be a fool (who we pity) and keep attenting his nazi party meetings. Cuz the bottom line most people just stop caring about his crazy beleifs -_- . It's clear he has some sort of mental issues in which his brain does not alow him to see political logic lol :doh:

:hi:

(Riot Starter, stop posting repetitive pics, lets break the routine and spice up the boards)

COD-RIOT-STARTER
02-05-2005, 11:17 AM
and i hope you clowns will understand that people care no more about your commie parties than they do about my fascist meeting. If the majority supported us fascists, it would not be a good thing, even I admit. We are more of a bbalancing act. If commies try to take charge, us fascists will be there to give them he||. HEIL HITLER

$olid_$nake
02-11-2005, 03:15 PM
i realy think americas time is up as the top super power, to many state are starting to rise up against the 1 thing america is trying to spred "DEMOCRASY" :thumbdown: and many middle eastern and eastern states are turning to a communist style of goverment. and another thing is america is on the brink of another korean war with Kim jong lie or woteva he is called (no offence) has declaired he has nuckler weapons and has pulled out of the nogosiateing table. and now also iran has now said they will have no opresers. now just think if korea start flogging there nukes off to middle eastern countrys america could have a big problem on there hands. all we need now is a new communist state to rise up in the west and then world war three is on our hands ppl. and god help britain if tony blait is still in charge my god will we have a problem then.

Former Gen.
03-08-2005, 12:10 AM
What the he|| is wrong with you people- r u all just stupid, blind ignorant or insane. The goddamn fuhrer killed SIX MILLION INNOCENT JEWS!!!!!!! I cant believe that any sensible people like you guys would actually consider rationalizing with the things that the commander did (no matter how great some were- which I will truthfully grant him).
Common guys, this isnt being cool and its definitely not right!!!
:thumbdown:

Former Gen.
03-08-2005, 12:55 AM
I believe that the Jewish people are actually the greatest race. Look at how many empires, how much hatred and persecution, and how many millenia they have gone through and you tell me what civilization or religion or race has lasted longer than the Jewish people (besides the Hindus). :yup:

Musouka
03-08-2005, 08:08 AM
Say fuhrer again for me.

HelloMyMoto{FyC}
03-08-2005, 03:08 PM
Does anyone else think Gryphs time here should be up? All he does is come into ever thread and post his queer cyber posts. He can not stay on topic and just annoys everyone who has to read his *****. Perhaps one of the Almighty Moderators can help Gryph find his way to the door.

Former Gen.
03-09-2005, 12:43 AM
Yes, I too believe that gryph is just a waste of cyberspace and should be eliminated from our gaming community. Amen.
-Former Gen. :fu:

Former Gen.
03-09-2005, 12:44 AM
Gryph a Lesbian- pr0n addict

Musouka
03-09-2005, 08:14 AM
Originally posted by HelloMyMoto{FyC}@Mar 8 2005, 01:08 PM
Does anyone else think Gryphs time here should be up? All he does is come into ever thread and post his queer cyber posts. He can not stay on topic and just annoys everyone who has to read his *****. Perhaps one of the Almighty Moderators can help Gryph find his way to the door.
Actually, Former Gen. sent me a crude PM. I did not even know who he was when he sent it to me. So, I took it, and now am doing my part to get back at him.

HelloMyMoto{FyC}
03-09-2005, 07:09 PM
Then PM away. No one wants to hear your fantasies involving Former Gen. You dont have to post everything you want to tell him in every single thread on this forum.

Musouka
03-09-2005, 09:48 PM
Oh... I am PMing. Plus he got a bunch of other f**ktards to send me PMs. I basically took it to the warzone now. So I will quit out in the other topics.

Musouka
03-10-2005, 08:39 AM
Weren't the Trojans the greatest race of warriors?

HelloMyMoto{FyC}
03-10-2005, 09:38 AM
The best brand of condom maybe, warriors maybe not.

Ives
03-10-2005, 10:04 AM
The Romans and Greeks were the best warriors in my opnion

private diapers
03-12-2005, 09:25 AM
i would have to go with the mongols n=because ghangis kaun kicked everybodys a$$.

$olid_$nake
03-12-2005, 11:55 AM
either the British empire or the Persions to me.


(the mongols never had a navy :huh:: )

GoA Stackhouse
03-22-2005, 11:03 AM
I would have to say one of the greatest empires was the short-lived Greek empire under Alexander the Great. Though it was not long before it was divided. Still to conquer from the mediterranean to Asia, is quite and accomplishment.

RedRecon
03-23-2005, 06:23 PM
hmmM!M!M! i dont think takin africa is a real big thing.. The brits germans and french had pieces of land there a while back. I think the Greatest would be the romans! all you wonnabee smart people might say the mongols but the mongols where not as advanced as the Romans the romans actually took baths! They had huge temples, Collosiums, things that could compete with the egyptians. The Romans by far had the greatest empire known to man, If by land maybe not but Great does not mean size but it means the men and women and how advanced they where for there time. The british empire was big but if you think about it most of it was land no one else wanted or cared of, even the brits dident care much of there other far away lands. The mongols might have had lots of land even warriors but where not as advanced as the Romans

Musouka
03-23-2005, 07:18 PM
Originally posted by HelloMyMoto{FyC}@Mar 10 2005, 07:38 AM
The best brand of condom maybe, warriors maybe not.
Quoted post


Did I say trojans.... eugh... I meant Spartans.

The Last Slovene
04-02-2005, 03:16 PM
Some one earlier said that Hitler wanted to Join with England and create a 2 huge superpowers. Have u read Mein kampf. He thinks that the Brits r A$$holes. He hates them. I think that the greates race of warrior is between the German intellgence and the pure Hardship that the Russians can endure. America has always had the advantage of Techonolgy and not being in the hole war and people. So they always have the upper hand. But in or time the China has is the worlds superpower. U could kill 4 for 1 american and they still would have 600 million people left. If want u can check that stat out, I just wrote a paper on it!

Musouka
04-06-2005, 05:38 PM
That is why we have something called nuclear technology ;).

The Last Slovene
04-09-2005, 04:41 PM
They have them to.

private diapers
04-09-2005, 07:08 PM
the greatest race of warriors was the greek army. With Alexander the great they were litterally invincible. i.e. Alexander and his troops stopped at a small town and asked the king to surrender and give the town to him, the king refused so to show the obidience of his troops alexander ordered his troops to march off the nearby cliff. they started to mach and eventually began to fall of the cliff. after about 20 people off the cliff alexander halted them. the king was so petrified he surrendered on the spot.now that is a powerful race of warriors.

The Last Slovene
04-10-2005, 08:21 PM
Alexander was a Maciendoin!

Musouka
04-11-2005, 12:11 AM
It is Macedonian. Or was he a Mycanaean?

Before Alexander, the Spartan's were the greatest race of warriors. They trained their boys as fighters as soon as they were able to walk. They trained them obedience by having all the boys sit on a bench that was sprinkled with sand. It had sand for the purpose to keep them still. If a boy were to shift himself in any manner the sand would not leave an imprint. If they stayed perfectly still there would be an imprint. Thus if you were to shift, you were not paying attention.

Graphic
04-22-2005, 06:48 AM
Spartans and Japanese. These were cultures that completely revolved around the warrior class.