Operation:iraqi freedom

[edwin writer]

You know what i think they should drop thumbtaks instead of bombs,they are always bare foot.Dahm president send those men and women to war why doesnt that a-hole go to!But i like that they caught saddam!Btw my friend's grandfather was in the army and the grandpa left the medals to my freind,They are pretty cool i wish i had a scanner!

[Krelian]

well, he doesn't go because he's the commander in chief. it would be foolish to send the commander to the front lines, and he'd be completely useless there anyway ;). i do see your point though.

i think the outcome as far as getting rid of saddam is a good thing, but i don't support the war. they didn't find any weapons, which means that iraq wasn't a threat, totally invalidating the reason for going to war. liberating the iraqi people is nice, but it's not america's business, and we have no right to "liberate" the people of any government we don't particularly like. we've overstepped our bounds by far, and if i was a foreigner i'd be scared of america too. we have an enormous amount of military power, but other countries haven't had reason to fear because we've shown restraint and common sense, but now...

[edwin writer]

Well your right the whole reason we went to war is beacuse the wmd but then bush changed it to be we will try to catch saddam,There was a funny joke in chappele show yesterday..It was paul mooney as a black nostrdaums and some asked how does george bush know iraq has wmd then the black nostrdaums said beacuse he as the reciept! B)
Well iam signing off for tonight ill be back at 5:55 pm tomorrow! :hi:

[genesis]

I better not post in this thread. But I couldn't resist. I was, from the very beggining against the war and many people actually said many things to me. So I did shut up. Now killing so many thousands of people just to fulfill America's oil demand and a revenge on Saddam. I'm not with that, never was and never will be.

Nuff said.

[LtSounders]

Ask yourself this question are you willing to die for and Iraqi war or send you children there to die? Is this a real reason to fight for?

[genesis]

Since they never found any WMD, which was the core reason to go for war and to kill thousands of innocent poor people who don't even have shoes and then finding nothing, not even a single piece of weapon, I mean nothing was not even planted, I'm amazed but I'm also shocked as to the integrity of US intelligence and British government's puppet show for the integrity of that intelligence. What was the originality of the war.

I heard that US senior weapons inspector is hopeless on finding anything now, and he said that "We were all wrong".

So what happens now?

[edwin writer]

Same here and president bush said the war was over but people are still dying!

[Kingox]

I know Im not going to sound very nice or what ever, But what is done is done.

They want to iraq (for the wrong reasons) they did not find any weapons, so what big deal (besides the death, all those who where involved, I don't give a crap about the dead yankies, I care about all) there info was wrong. maybe next time thet will not jump in with both feet. I don't see why they ahve to make a such a big deal about the info being wrong.

People elect there leaders the make the disitions on behalf of them. They should get used to it.

Now I sound like a screaming retard, So im not going to go on any more :)

[millermagic]

I'm going to try to keep myself under control.

At the beginning of the war, I didn't like the idea of searching for Weapons of Mass Destruction that didn't exist and never existed. But after watching the news, and some discussions in my classes, I deicided that it was wrong for WMD's, but right for Oil. The United States is completley independent on oil; without oil, we arn't going to be able to survive. But, I'm sure that there were different ways to do things than a major war, maybe through diplomacy.

[Teufel]

I say the war was justified, no doubt about it. Iraq was a country that supported terrorism, that alone is reason enough for me to give it the ol' :tup: The President never said the WMD were an imminent threat, in fact, he specifically said we were going to war so that it would never become an imminent threat. And while David Kay said there were no WMD, he said there were WMD related programs that in a few years could've produced WMD, and even just WMD-related programs are against the ceasefire the US and UN had with Iraq.

And if America stays the course and sticks through it, Iraq will be a flourishing democracy, and Islamic facism in the Middle East will see its day's numbered. Not because of European dialogue, but through American and Coalition sacrifice.

War for oil? You people who believe that are completely bonkers. We had tens of thousands of troops stationed in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, both with militaries inferior even to the post-Gulf War Baathist army. The idea that we invaded Iraq for oil is ridiculous.

and president bush said the war was over but people are still dying!

The war in Iraq is over, we are no longer fighting army to army, now we are battling cowardly insurgents. The war in Iraq may be over, but America and her allies are far from done in that country as there is much to be done. The war in Iraq may be over, but the war on terrorism isn't.

[swizzlestix9]

Sure in the Presidents eyes it was justified, lets test our new weapons, kill people and spend lots of money. Sure and lets get the whole world to hate us. The real weapons of mass destructon was the presidnets lies. What a dumba$$. Its true we needed oil, cause the presidnet got payed millions by the oil companys to get elected and now he was doing thm a favor. Iraq leaders where the ones that supported terroism not the people, it wouldnt be fun to be born there, then again u never choose where u are born.

[AMF]

I'm sick and tired about hearing about the 1000 americans beeing killed in that war, when the U.S. is the agressor, and has started the war on false premises. blood for oil - DAMN RIGHT. Don't get me wrong, I hate the fact that these soldiers had to die, but what about the iraqi casualties?

The so-called "precision bombings" by the americans have caused a lot more casualties including many civilians, but we rarely hear about them through the media.

I have have allways defended the US from accusations of nearly all americans beeing ignorant, and the countrys policies beeing "imperialistic". This war, and the continued support of George W. Bush by the majority of the american public has proved me wrong.

I admire, however, the many protesters in the US calling for a change of regime, when they face accusations of being "unamerican" by the Republican$ and their sympathisers. "Unpatriotic" is the new US hate word, taking over from "Communist". In Europe we had a similar word - "witch", this was in the dark ages

[AMF]

Originally posted by Teufel@Feb 10 2004, 06:10 AM
The war in Iraq is over, we are no longer fighting army to army, now we are battling cowardly insurgents.
Wake up moron

How in he|| can fighting for the independence of your country armed with a Kalashnikov against the -by far- largest and most heavily armed force in the world be "cowardly". These people are viewed as heroes by many. It all depends on whose eyes are seeing.

The only thing you are seeing, is the propagande issued by your semifascist government and the biased beyond belief american media.

No one knows, what will happen in Iraq in the future, but look at all the other countries in the middle east - none are democratic. How can you belive that a hated american occupation will impose democracy in Iraq for certain?

The only succes story supporting your suggestion is Japan after ww2 (the germans had a democratic tradition established before hitler came to power), but that country is so much from any other in the world, and they were the aggressor in the first place.

[Enemydestate]

Patriotism is something you will never undwestand AMF. You dont deserve the avatar you bear.

The war is justified. All throughout the world, US flags are burned, US citzens are harrassed, US government is insulted. The US is demonstrating that beyond what the fanatical liberal says: The US has many patriots sitting in their living rooms reading about the same minority of people running around promoting anarchy.

Your comments are fanatical anti american, your veiws "off the charts" to the left. The only propeganda issued is by the liberal media. Conservative USA will see to it that America is feared and revered throughout the world. The stars and stripes will never burn unless the one burning it is burning right alongside it!

[Kobayashi]

From this point on your image attachment privalages have been revoked. You have abused them far too often.

[Chrua]

Iraq did have biological weapons. Sadamm bombed one of his cities i think it was a Kurd city. Iraq is a war on terror.

[BnBNigh]

1. The decision to goto war in Iraq was made using the "inteligence" from over 11 nations agencies. Only two of which were in the USA.

2. The war is over. War is fought by governments, and Saddams government lost. Now the US and it allies (including Iraq) are involved in a policing action. BTW more US soliders died in non-combat accidents (car accidents for one) last year than has died in 18months of fighting in Iraq.

3. The insurgents are prolly 50/50 Iraqi's loyal to Saddam, and or a warlord, and terrorists from neighboring countries.

4. Saddam killed more Iraqi's than America ever did.

5. Hey swizzlestix9...The United States has the largest UNTAPPED oil reserves in the world, located in Alaska, and the gulf. Unfortunatly the tree hugging, Liberals of the Democratic party voted against drilling for oil in Alaska because it might upset some carabu. These are the same people who accuse Bush of wagging a war for oil. The Bush family has ties to the oil industry, but don't you think he'd make good if the drilling were in America and not Saudi? Also, the only way he could do a favor to his oil buddies would be to nuke Iraq and the rest of the middle east so the American boys have a monopoly on the oil. Instead he is using our tax $ to rebuild the oil industry in Iraq because, the more oil available, the lower the price. (law of supply and demand) So it is better for the consumer. (in EVERY gas using country)

6. Just because the war is over, doesn't mean that everything is perfect. The introduction of democracy into Iraq is going very quickly.

7. After the revolutionary war in America, there were "insurgents" and turmoil. And it took a very long time to settle into a great nation.

8. Iraq must hold elections, no matter what threat there is from terrorists. Good ol' Abe Lincoln was elected in the middle of a Civil war, and he had to be secretly taken to DC on a train dressed as a drunk, homeless lady. The validity of his presidency has never been questioned.

9. Some of you have made the point of saying that others have gotten their info from the biased media. I ask you where you got youir info? I have reserched these facts. All of them. Secondly, the media in America is hardly the puppet of the government. In fact it's the most free media in the world. It just so happens to be completely out to get any Republican out of office. (most media)

10. There is a democracy in the Middle East AMF, it's called Isriel, and It is the single most powerfull nation in the region. Isriel defeated 7 nations that attacked all at once, and actually pushed the borders back. They were outnumbered 5 to 1 by most figures.

11. Iraq was not liked by it's neighbors. Almost all of its neighbors are Theocracies (ruled by religious leaders, usually fanatical). Saddam was not a very religious man himself, but he still chose to persecute people of different religions.

12. No "direct" link has been made to al queda, or the taliban, or terrorism in general. Unless you concider that Saddam has payed an unknown $ amount to the families of homicide bombers in Palestine.

13. Saddam has used WMD. His is the only government other than the United States in WWII that has. The difference is, he used them on his own people. Imagine Bush just nuking Wyoming one sunny afternoon. He would not be able to stay in power. The people, the military, and the world would remove him. But in Iraq, the military was corrupt, and they enjoyed the power, or feared reprocusions, and hence the people were powerless. This has been a long LONG time coming. And if I were an Iraqi citicen, I'd be pissed at the world for letting this go on so long. Especially if my 4yr old son were taken from me, to force me to work for the government making weapons. And just this year, when my son would be 10yrs old, I find where his body is buried.

These are FACTS. Not opinions, and not fed to me by any media. It comes from research. Rather than quote all of my scorces, I instead challenge anyone to find any of these points to be false. Quote scorces. (CBS doesn't count) If you are NOT willing to research yourself, and instead just spit out what you hear or read in the media. Then you really have nothing to add to this post.