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catman
05-30-2006, 08:33 PM
what is your favorite small-caliber weapon in history? id have to say the scoped mosin-nagant.

Bosniac2005
05-31-2006, 10:35 PM
hmm
well my fav Rifle is the
M1 Garand, its a semi-automatic that was i believe the most advanced rifle of WW2.

My fav Automatic is the
Ak-47, simply because of its reliability and weight..
my Second fav would would the HK guns.

SiTh [F.E.A.R.]
06-01-2006, 02:30 PM
i say the colt45 its stoping power is good and it is steal yust to day buy the spesel forces..and i like the and the Ak-47 and 74 are good to real reliabl drop a Ak in mude it well steal shoot..and the 9mm is not bad ethere not as sterong as the calt45 but its smal 9mm bullit mack it go a lot farther then the calt45..i cood say a lot a bout guns my dad fexes them 4 ppl.. he has all cinds of guns and sum ww2 ones but aout of all of them i like my dads MP5it shoots a 9mm bullit and it gos therow a 30 round clep in sec.. o i seed moer then what i that i whas woow.. and it is peroboley all speald rong and what i just sead is rong to.

catman
06-06-2006, 10:21 PM
ok...

Dascoo
06-14-2006, 03:13 PM
http://i6.tinypic.com/14dem91.jpg
http://i6.tinypic.com/14depti.jpg

The G36C.......sexiest weapon ever.......

Heres some more info on the G36 series:
http://www.hkpro.com/G36.htm
http://world.guns.ru/assault/as14-e.htm

catman
06-14-2006, 04:38 PM
nice, but that picture is of an airsoft gun...

catman
06-14-2006, 10:21 PM
go to google images if you want a picture of a real gun. so it is your favourite because its sexy?? you dont even know its specs. btw, just for fun, name any modern COMBAT weapon and ill hopefully tell you its specs...,

Graphic
06-14-2006, 11:15 PM
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j305/graphic36/aksig3.gif

catman
06-15-2006, 12:01 AM
wtf??

Graphic
06-15-2006, 08:29 AM
:tired: It's an AK...

catman
06-15-2006, 04:20 PM
oh.... why though?

Graphic
06-15-2006, 11:40 PM
It looks and sounds cool, and it's the AK. It's an icon.

catman
06-16-2006, 12:38 AM
wow...

Graphic
06-16-2006, 01:24 AM
...?

Dascoo
06-16-2006, 06:12 AM
That doesnt mean i don't know it's specs, because I think it's sexy.......catman you suck :P


EDIT: the guns are real, never mind

Graphic
06-16-2006, 07:17 AM
Who cares about specs except people who plan on shooting it? I'm never going to fire an assault rifle in my life, so specs are irrelevant to me with my "favorite gun."

Dascoo
06-16-2006, 12:19 PM
Cat, did you think those were fake because the flash hider is small?

catman
06-16-2006, 08:07 PM
kinda, and because it doesnt look durable. i don think a gun should be your favourite becasue of looks, but whatever. ok das... what are its specs mr weapon expert? and no googleing!!

Graphic
06-17-2006, 08:49 PM
i don think a gun should be your favourite becasue of looks, but whatever. What other critera is there for people who aren't gun people? My favorite gun is the one I most enjoy seeing and using in movies and games. Muzzle velocity, round size, etc are completely irrelevant to me. That's like saying someone should base their favorite car on specs, in which case the only favorite someone could pick is an F1 car or something, when a Ferrari 360 has so much more style.

catman
06-18-2006, 06:27 PM
ok man, chill.. i really like ww2 guns, specifically semiautos and ppsh series guns

Dascoo
06-19-2006, 06:16 AM
Ok, I'm no weapon expert, but I know it uses a 5.56 x 45 mm NATO Round, it's capable of automatic fire, semi auto, and burst, C stands for compact, it's gont an 8 inch barrel, and it's gas operated. It also uses the same sight on a UMP.


OK........Here's a question that somebody asked on a server, and I'm the only person who got it right :)

What was the largest small arms used in World War 2......NO GOOGLE, ONLY GUESS. and you can just say the type of weapon >_> not the eact name of it.

Graphic
06-19-2006, 08:57 AM
Ma' deuce?

catman
06-19-2006, 01:13 PM
anti-tank rifle(not small-arms) or pistol

Dascoo
06-19-2006, 03:32 PM
Catman wins. Anti-tank rifle.

catman
06-19-2006, 05:04 PM
sorry for that. i new right after i said it thats its worng. anti-tank rifle is not small arms. its in the 'anti-materiel' category. update your question please, dascoo.

MFKR
06-19-2006, 11:31 PM
My favorite small arm would probably be a toss up between STG 44 and the Mauser98k. Though for modern weaponry, the AK-47 is a very capable weapon. Not a fan of its stock design, made for reliablility more then accuracy.I do much prefer the Finnish Valmet and the South African R4 varients way more, which are very much improved versions.

catman
06-20-2006, 12:38 AM
quote your last sentecne mfkr. yes, but those are only becasue those are modified varients of the original ak. if you go to russia and find an authentic russian made CONTEMPORARY ak-47 rifle, you will find that the original is best.

Graphic
06-20-2006, 09:31 AM
The modern AK-101s and AK-107s/8s are as good as any modern weapon, and probably better than most.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/07/Ak-107.jpg

Dascoo
06-20-2006, 12:11 PM
Anti tank rifles count as small arms, because they do not require more then one person to operate, and can be carried around.

catman
06-20-2006, 04:28 PM
they require at least two; and 1 or 2 guards on stand-bye with submachineguns. small arms is officially defined as no higher than .38 caliber, unless a non-fullauto pistol.
and thank you graphic, for the very nice picture.

Dascoo
06-20-2006, 08:41 PM
Yes, but a Anti tank rifle does not need 3 people to operate it, only one person.
Light machine gun's count as small arms because they do not require more then one person to operate, while medium and heavy machine guns do, for carrying ammunition, and for carrying extra parts. They probably go under as Artillery.

Where does it say that small arms are officially defined no higher then .38 caliber?
Are you sure it didn't say 3.9 inches? (100mm)

catman
06-20-2006, 09:53 PM
ok,well, anti-tank isnt small arms... what do you mnea "it said"? i didnt google anything or something. this is for experience. any way, got any more questions? (on weapons, keep on topic)

Dascoo
06-21-2006, 06:14 AM
Yes it's small arms :P it's operated by one soldier!!!!!

catman
06-21-2006, 10:16 AM
i was just telling you how its not small arms to clear up my answer. the smallest anti-tank rifle in ww2 was about 9.3 MM. Maybe that can be a small arm... arms arnt, in this case, categorized on how many people to operate. it is the size. 1 person can actually, bu himself, operate a FLAK .88, but that's not a small arm.

Dascoo
06-21-2006, 12:08 PM
An anti-tank rifle can be carried around by one soldier. There is actually no limit in caliber for small arms.

Graphic
06-21-2006, 12:09 PM
Of course one person could operate an 88, but they weren't made to be operated by one person, and never were.

catman
06-21-2006, 10:58 PM
exactly!! an anti tank rifle CAN be operated by one person, but is almost useless in that aspect:

One person:
Dangerous. Vulnerable.
No sighter. Bad aim.
Slow reloading time. unreliable.
if it brakes, what will one lone infantry soldier do? he cant fix, he cant run, he cant fight.

Thank you, graphic, for saying what i couldnt find how to. Even though you were trying to prove a point against my argument.. ;-P

Savage
06-22-2006, 06:10 AM
damn that ak 107 looks nice. wouldnt wanna be in the way of tat thing. its kinda like ak 47/107 vs m15/m16

Graphic
06-22-2006, 03:51 PM
damn that ak 107 looks nice. wouldnt wanna be in the way of tat thing. its kinda like ak 47/107 vs m15/m16

It has an advanced anti-recoil thingamajigger that sounds sexy.

"As the projectile is ejected from the muzzle, the gas that flows into the main gas chamber moves toward the piston that drives the bolt. This occurs while another portion of the same gas moves through its own cylinder to a piston that moves in the opposite direction, towards the muzzle. This "double recoil" decreases recoil and increases accuracy in full auto mode."

It even fires NATO rounds.

catman
06-22-2006, 06:04 PM
that has to be an excellent weapon.

Dascoo
06-23-2006, 06:17 AM
exactly!! an anti tank rifle CAN be operated by one person, but is almost useless in that aspect:

One person:
Dangerous. Vulnerable.
No sighter. Bad aim.
Slow reloading time. unreliable.
if it brakes, what will one lone infantry soldier do? he cant fix, he cant run, he cant fight.

Thank you, graphic, for saying what i couldnt find how to. Even though you were trying to prove a point against my argument.. ;-P

Catman, the anti tank rifle was designed to be used by one person! Can't you understand that? Ok catman, yes there would be people who would be protecting the operater, but they wouldnt be using the ATs themselves. A flak 88 can't be moved around by one person, and you can't carry around the ammunition. Hell, the thing needs to be towed. Why are you comparing a small anti tank rifle to a flak 88?

Obviously you don't know that soldiers don't work all alone where in cod everyone wants to be a lone wolf. Most likely the anti tank rifleman would be working with a fireteam, NOT A CREW. It seems that you can't tell the difference between the two so whats the point of arguing with you? You don't except, with all the facts presented towards you.

And why would the anti tank gunner need another person to aim for him? So he would have bad aim because he doesnt have another person with him... O let me guess, +30 accuracy if another soldier with him right?

catman
06-23-2006, 10:14 AM
you just dont quit, do you? i was just trying to clear up my answer. we're done.

Dascoo
06-23-2006, 03:40 PM
Ok. Were done........who else thought that the XM8 looked gay?

JTM91
06-23-2006, 03:43 PM
lol^

catman
06-23-2006, 03:48 PM
lmao.. that reminds me.. people were saying it looks like a fish, HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!! AAHHAHA *****!! ROFL! GOD IM DRUNK!! AHAHAH..

Dascoo
06-23-2006, 10:24 PM
You know how the XM8 is based off the g36 design......why didnt they just buy
g36's?

catman
06-23-2006, 11:21 PM
cause thay wanted to show off there horrible retardment'sship. that gun awasted money and time, and is absolutely pointless. it will never be needed or used. poor use of sense.

ColonelChaos007
06-30-2006, 12:30 AM
Steyr AUG A3 (Is that small arms?), P226 Blackwater Pistol, Israeli Desert Eagle. :icon_cool:

catman
06-30-2006, 12:39 AM
yeah, small arms is anything less than 9 mil. interesting choices. whats a blackwater pistol? u got a pic?

ColonelChaos007
06-30-2006, 01:01 AM
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a238/Jedistudent/P226Blackwater.jpg

You like this gun? I do. You want me to supply a pic of a Steyr AUG A3 and/or Desert Eagle?

catman
06-30-2006, 01:11 AM
damn. sig 226 is my fav. modern pistol. go ahead about the aug, i know what it is, but a3?? whats with that?

ColonelChaos007
06-30-2006, 01:16 AM
There are many versions of the A3. Some here:

http://zbrane.specialista.info/image/gallery/n200511160732_steyr_aug8.jpg

http://www.army-technology.com/contractor_images/mannlicher/STEYR-AUG-A3.jpg

You like it? It's not under 9mm. My mistake. Sorry.

catman
06-30-2006, 01:19 AM
holy god that is sexy. what, shouldnt it be in 5.56 NATO?

ColonelChaos007
06-30-2006, 01:27 AM
LMAO! :icon_eek: You' re one of the vey few people who like this gun. I mean, yeah, the looks, the way it serves on the field. I'd recommend this gun to any fighting force present. And yeah....sexy...lol. You can cause some real damage with this baby. Argh. I keep confusing myself with another gun. Forgive me. :icon_redface:

catman
06-30-2006, 01:47 PM
dude thats the hottest bullpup ive ever seen...

ColonelChaos007
06-30-2006, 01:55 PM
Well if you're gonna start making out with it, or jacking off to the picture, I suggest you get a room with it. LMAO! :icon_eek: But yeah, the Steyr AUG A3 ROCKS!!!!! :icon_cool:

catman
06-30-2006, 02:43 PM
maybe ill buy it a drink...

Dascoo
06-30-2006, 02:48 PM
yeah, small arms is anything less than 9 mil. interesting choices. whats a blackwater pistol? u got a pic?

are we gonna have to fight over this again.......

Anywho, who can find a good pick of the MR-C....It looks pretty cool.

FN Scar looks pretty sweet

http://i5.tinypic.com/169kqk3.jpg

So does the p90 :) one of my personal favourits
http://i3.tinypic.com/169ktx4.jpg

ColonelChaos007
06-30-2006, 02:51 PM
Those are some awesome pics. Nice! Both of them look beautiful. Especially the P90. Munitions Belquique is one of those weird companies that make weird guns...but nonetheless...it's pretty orginal and unique. :icon_razz:

catman
06-30-2006, 06:57 PM
http://www.rusalma.org/newspaper/NSIM200404_files/mosin.jpg
MINE!!!!^^^^^^
http://www.army.mil/medalofhonor/smith/battlescape/images/m249.jpg
scoped 249^^^^^^^^^^^^^
http://www.tacshooting.com/image_rifle/galil392s_01l.jpg

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Galil Assault Rifle/LMG;Favourite assault rifle

ColonelChaos007
06-30-2006, 07:03 PM
Holy Hell! That's a tight ass looking rifle, catman. Especially the third one. Mmm...I wanna get my hands with one of that...LMAO!!

catman
06-30-2006, 07:21 PM
hell yeah.. damn, those israelis.. lol though, im jewish, not the reason though

ColonelChaos007
06-30-2006, 07:43 PM
LMAO!! Hey catman, since you brought up Israelis...do you want to see a clip of a guy...no stuntman or whatever...holding two Desert Eagle .50 AE (Action Express)?

Now I gotta say you gotta be like Arnold Swarzsaneggar(sp?) to hold that gun with one hand....but this guy holds each Desert Eagle with both hands. Now look at the recoil....do you want to see it?

catman
06-30-2006, 09:32 PM
sure. Yeah dude, a desert eagle is 13 inches long, and has a .50AE bullet. Sure thing chaos. ill bring up some videos here too then.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8512921834081800269&q=machine+guns
^^^^^^^^^^^PPSH41 Peppesha-PistolyetPulemyotShpagina1941
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2854520113522899601&q=machine+guns
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Browning .30 Tank Version

ColonelChaos007
06-30-2006, 09:48 PM
Here it is, Catman:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=gcrmK3jV-4s&search=Desert%20Eagle%2050

Now, I'm just assuming it's a 50 cal Action Express, since it's what the author said. But hell, it's gotta be.

catman
06-30-2006, 10:13 PM
holy crap he's crazy. yeah, action express is the type of gun, taken from the bullet AE=Action Express. see my vids above??^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

ColonelChaos007
06-30-2006, 10:23 PM
Damn. That PPsh really sounds like a lawnmower or something. lmao. But that Browning 30 cal totally looked awesome. Nice find, catman.

catman
06-30-2006, 10:25 PM
np. it seems me and you are all alone here.... lets go for coffee?

ColonelChaos007
06-30-2006, 10:30 PM
Yeah, sure. I've noticed that you and I post regularly here everyday. My treat...tabs on me...lol.

*Looks at clerk* "Just a regular mocha for me... *Looks at catman* And what do you want, mate?

NOTE: lol, I look like an idiot doing this.

catman
06-30-2006, 11:46 PM
lmfao

*I'll have a raspberry lemonade* *looks down at pants* *nevermind*

catman
07-01-2006, 02:10 AM
I guess this is FN SCAR. someone was askin for it earlier. dascoo??
<a href="http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scarl16ku.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/2015/scarl16ku.th.jpg" border="0" alt="Free Image Hosting at www.ImageShack.us" /></a>

Dascoo
07-01-2006, 07:01 PM
Who asked for an FN scar? I think i asked for an MR-C........

catman
07-01-2006, 07:20 PM
someone said something like "GottaSomeone Find a good picture of this gun:..."


edit-your right, it was the mr-c. ill try to find one


http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/875/images6ze.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/1475/weapon42zh.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Dascoo
07-02-2006, 01:53 PM
kinda small......i already ofund a pick of it, but i just wanted a larger one >_>

catman
07-02-2006, 02:08 PM
impossible. i did all i could, nothing, and im usually good on finding pics. can you share it with us?

Dascoo
07-02-2006, 08:43 PM
http://world.guns.ru/assault/as41-e.htm

FN2000

catman
07-02-2006, 08:44 PM
yes? what about it? i dont like it..

Dascoo
07-03-2006, 12:59 AM
it looks...cute........actually it looks like the assault rifle from halo.

catman
07-03-2006, 11:42 AM
not really my taste..how bout this!?!:
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/2821/m1gard6mg.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/4852/m1gar27ym.jpg (http://imageshack.us)<a href="http://img430.imageshack.us/my.php?image=m1gar47gh.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://img430.imageshack.us/img430/9662/m1gar47gh.th.jpg" border="0" alt="Free Image Hosting at www.ImageShack.us" /></a>http://img430.imageshack.us/img430/1694/m1gar62fl.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Dascoo
07-03-2006, 02:24 PM
Omg That Gun Is From Call Of Duty 2 K.

catman
07-03-2006, 04:03 PM
what? the scoped m1? its not from and cod..

Dascoo
07-03-2006, 11:41 PM
....nvm catman

catman
07-04-2006, 12:22 AM
well whats your opinion on it?
or we could dicuss this::



http://www.militaireluchtvaartmuseum.nl/collectie/restauratie/flak88/images/Flak88-3-groot.jpg (http://www.militaireluchtvaartmuseum.nl/collectie/restauratie/flak88/images/Flak88-3-groot.jpg) http://tanxheaven.com/fedcol/88mmflak36-37/03-FLAK_88,Soesterberg.jpg

http://www.constable.ca/flak88s.jpg. (http://www.constable.ca/flak88s.jpg

)http://www.ww2mmrefphotos.com/photos/GERMAN/artgun/88%20mm%20Flak.jpg
http://www.autogallery.org.ru/k/k/hkette8-tomit8_8cmHeeresFlak_065-88_Baydeww2.jpghttp://sup3rman2.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/72.jpg

Dascoo
07-04-2006, 01:45 PM
That's not small arms :P

ON the m1 garand: I don't think you got the joke

catman
07-04-2006, 01:58 PM
i didnt..
at this point though, it looks as though we're just discussing our favourite weapons. so what do you think?

MFKR
07-04-2006, 02:20 PM
The 88 is my favorite artillary peice of all time. Its accurate, it loads fast, its multi-tasking (artillary bombardments, Anti-Aircraft, and Anti-armour use), and on top of all of that, it self ejects! one less person needed to use it.

I actually have seen one of those funky FN assault rifles at a gun show a year or two ago. It almost didnt look real. It looks simular to the rifles they used in the movie Aliens. I like the futuristic style of the newer assault rifles includeing the FN, the HK and the American variants.

catman
07-04-2006, 06:52 PM
Well, with all this freakin nuclear crap and modern weaponry, we're becoming aliens ourselves.. :bee: :daz:

Oshiri
07-05-2006, 04:48 AM
gyrojet is pretty gnarly.. how can you go wrong with a pistol/rocket launcher combo?! (although it had bad accuracy and wasnt used)

the FN fal is a very cool gun indeed :) i like that new-fangled gun with caseless ammunition.. i cant remember the name :( but it is very rectangular..

Alpha_Pasta
07-05-2006, 11:31 AM
The 88 is pretty cool.

It was originally designed for anti aircraft, but the Germans cleverly had the idea that they could turn it horizontal.

catman
07-05-2006, 11:53 AM
lol
oshiri i also like the gyrojet, but everyone consider it a peice of sh!t. yeah, that was clever, but it was only a step towards that kind gun, and it seems that the staircase has broken..
the caseless gun is like a H&K 23 or something.
Did you know the fn fal is used in 53 countries?

Oshiri
07-05-2006, 03:24 PM
wow:SHOCKED: well its a good gun i suppose :D

of course.. nothing compares to the autofaust.. its a wcanka modded weapon :D panzerfaust with fire speed and clip size of ppsh xD.. shame its not real :(

Oshiri
07-05-2006, 03:25 PM
btw ^ thats a CoD mod weapon ^

Dascoo
07-06-2006, 04:35 PM
gyrojet is pretty gnarly.. how can you go wrong with a pistol/rocket launcher combo?! (although it had bad accuracy and wasnt used)

the FN fal is a very cool gun indeed :) i like that new-fangled gun with caseless ammunition.. i cant remember the name :( but it is very rectangular..


HK G11, didn't get into mass production though.

catman
07-06-2006, 09:40 PM
i knew it was something like that... man, the 'AutoFaust sounds damn cool.

MFKR
07-08-2006, 07:54 AM
Im going with the battle hardened Red Rider B-B gun. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Oshiri
07-08-2006, 01:59 PM
wow now THAT is hardcore.

http://www.modsonline.com/Downloads-full-1561.html

get the autofaust there :D you might need to register, but its worth it if you do.. be aware that unless your computer is decent you will lagg like nothing you ever seen (as mine does xD)

personally i prefer modsonline to codfiles, its just nicer..


back on topic, what do people think of the mp44 as a great weapon, not exactly the most advanced weapon of the 20th century, but possibly took the biggest leap in weapon advancements, and paved the way for most modern assault rifles...