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COD-RIOT-STARTER
02-25-2006, 07:30 PM
World War I has been pushed under the rug for alot of Americans and historians these days. It is considered a result of Germanic aggression by those who know something of it, which is only partially true. It started when the Austrio-Hungrian Archduke, Francis Ferdinad, was killed by a Serbian group called " the black hand". The Austrio-Hunagrians retaliated by declaring war on Serbia. Russia then mobilized its army to defend its fellow, Slav's, the Serbians. Thus, the Eastern front.

The Western front was much different, with the Germans, having long territorial disputes with the French in a series of Franco Prussian Wars, saw the window of oppertunity and enacted the Sheliefen (Sp) plan which main goal was the sacking of Paris. It was only partly successful.

Now, skipping ahead a little bit, it is time to start beating my favorite whipping boy, the English. America, with an influx of German immagrants living in it, was not predisposed to join the "allies", but more so to maintain its Monroe-era isolationist stance. That wasnt ok for the Brits. In their arrogance, to get America into the war, they violated America's sovriegnity, lied to us, and conspired against us.

First point, "violated America's soverignty". In the use of the inter-continental telegram line, dialogue, as set up in a treaty, the was destined for America was to be seen by Americans only. When Germany sent the Zimmerman telegram, a telegram calling for Mexico to enter the war, was seen by the British first as they were basically spying on our mail. The UK, with its interest in getting us into a war that was none of our concern, illegaly spied on us and violated our privacy, and, in a way, soverignty. This they denied. Thus, they also lied to us.

Second point. The Balflour declaration. The Jews, in order to eventually secure their homeland, told the British of a horrible holocaust occuring in Russia (Lucky number 6 million was the dead count they claimed.. awfully similiar to their WWII holocaust numbers...). The powerful Jewish bankers and elite in America assured they would flew their muscle and get America into the war if Britian sided with their zionist intentions. Thus, they conspired with zionists in our own country to work against us.

Hate to sound one sided, but the loss of tens of thousands of American lives over what, in the end, was nothing more than a usual European land struggle that had been occuring for hundreds of years that occured as a result of our biggest "ally" lieing to us is not acceptable, and not only that, but the UK has the nerve to complain about how long it took us to help them..

Where am I wrong BB1??
Enemy

BritishBulldog1
02-25-2006, 08:43 PM
Truthfully, I don't know COD, I'll have to do some research.

Well, that didn't take too long to refute your comments above, check this site out, neither the American or British governments are made to look particularly good. http://www.threeworldwars.com/world-war-1/ww1.htm

BB1

Alpha_Pasta
02-26-2006, 03:06 AM
You are correct in some ways there COD-RIOT-STARTER

COD-RIOT-STARTER
02-26-2006, 09:23 AM
BB1, I was looking for the typical British view here, not that debatable, but an interesting read, link. I am sure many historians would deny Pres. Wilson secretly planning the war, and whats more, shows how the Jewish conspirancy infected the American cabinet to get invovled. Whats missing, as far as I could tell, was a motive. However, BB1, it appears Brits are much like Americans in a way that WWI is more dry history than a source of national pride, as WWII is.

Enemy

Still pisses me off a bit.

BritishBulldog1
02-26-2006, 09:50 AM
The motive COD, was there to see, $$$$'s. The weapon making industry were eager to have a war to fill their coffers. That brings revenue to the government and war also staves off reccessions. Having a war is usually the fastest way out of recession.

BB1

COD-RIOT-STARTER
02-26-2006, 09:52 AM
Hmmm... but WWI didnt really have the same national effect as WWII, nor did it require near the material. And it still dosent explain why we joined the British.. Germanic Heritage is and was rooted just as deeply as Anglo Heritage

relax 1.0
02-27-2006, 08:42 AM
In WW1, 200,00 soldiers, i mean boys, died between breakfast and coffee!!!

private diapers
02-27-2006, 03:48 PM
if your going to push all that on the brits forcing us into war here is a page on reasons america went against the axis.

List of Reasons Americans Joined World War I (http://www.faqfarm.com/Q/How_and_why_did_the_US_get_involved_in_World_War_1 )

COD-RIOT-STARTER
02-27-2006, 08:43 PM
The Huge things that one sided article conviently forgets is how ships such as the Listuania were supplying the British and French to kill German youth..

BritishBulldog1
02-28-2006, 04:53 AM
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The Huge things that one sided article conviently forgets is how ships such as the Listuania were supplying the British and French to kill German youth..
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I have to agree with that. Supplying war material etc via a passenger ship was not the cleverest thing to do, except that it was expected to be attacked. It would appear that there was some collusion between the Brit and Yank governments over that.

BB1

Alpha_Pasta
02-28-2006, 11:23 AM
It isn't certain that is was carrying munitions...but if it was it would have been a very stupid thing to do.